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Post by tonyb on Nov 8, 2013 9:37:14 GMT -5
between SS/TUBE gear. What piece of gear floats your boat ? I dig my Butler amp because it bridges those qualities in SS/tube. No muss, no fuss. Musical fidelity is another that does it and does it well. My other favorite is McCormack amps. I recently turned JHAYMAN on to them over at Polk and he is just tickled pink. Bat would possibly be another. Moscode does it well too. Have a favorite that's bridging those characteristics ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 0:34:25 GMT -5
I'd have to say SS in just two channels, I don't have the time, patience or nerdy knowhow to operate a full blown AVR. Simple easy to use and sounds good are important to me.
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Post by Nightfall on Nov 12, 2013 0:40:32 GMT -5
I really dig my Yamaha CA-1010, when used by itself. That is to say I don't like it as much how it's setup now because my source signals are going through a lesser Yamaha AVR then to the CA's amp section. When used by itself it is the best sounding piece of equipment I've ever owned. (Not that this is saying much) 120w x 2 @ 4 ohm B class 20w x 2 @ 8 ohm A class (~25-28w @ 4 ohm) An incredible phono pre section with both MM/MC capabilities. I can only imagine how much I would like it if it were recapped and had a once over by a pro.
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Post by tonyb on Nov 12, 2013 1:09:47 GMT -5
Hey man, be proud of that 1010, quality piece no doubt. Hang on to that one.
My post was for those experienced with SS and tube gear, and what piece of gear you think bridges those characteristics. If you never had tube gear or heard some,then you may be one sided in your opinions. Just sayin'....no offense to anyone.
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Post by drumminman on Nov 12, 2013 8:04:57 GMT -5
My Odyssey Stereo Stratos Fred edition (hot rodded to the max by Klaus)has a wonderful smooth, powerful, detailed sound top to bottom. Had my original Stratos Stereo converted to dual mono, and when that didn't work with my 2.3TL's he went over the top: Reference grade caps, reference grade tranny's, Kismet board, WBT rca inputs, etc.
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Post by oldrocker on Nov 12, 2013 17:20:36 GMT -5
sweet yamaha
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Post by txcoastal1 on Nov 12, 2013 18:01:38 GMT -5
My Modwright KWI-200 Integrated....Shopped this baby for 3 months on the used market (saved 40%), found one 2 months old with the DAC option and has made my listening session easy as pie. Lots of headroom for most speakers on the market....Just plug in my PC or my Sonos and let her rip.
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Post by headrott on Nov 12, 2013 19:12:11 GMT -5
BAT for me. Tried Pass good, but not enough power overall. (I would love to try DK's X600.5's though!), Aragon, B & K, and (lower end) AMC 70WPC hybrid tube amp.
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Post by tonyb on Nov 12, 2013 19:41:54 GMT -5
Haven't had an ear on any Modwright integrateds, but I see them also bridging that gap judging by their other gear. Nice piece there man especially with the dac option. Seems to be a keeper.
Though SS is never going to sound like full blown tube gear, there exist some SS gear that gives you some of the best of both worlds without the fuss of full on tube gear. The ones already mentioned in this thread are good examples, many who waiver between ss/tubes should give these a listen.
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Post by B Run on Nov 13, 2013 0:47:22 GMT -5
I'm still really enjoying my Peachtree iNova, not a huge powerhouse but if you have efficient speakers it has a very warm musical sound. Not super high end or anything but I really enjoy it and the dac is fantastic.
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Post by tonyb on Nov 13, 2013 2:01:04 GMT -5
I'm still really enjoying my Peachtree iNova, not a huge powerhouse but if you have efficient speakers it has a very warm musical sound. Not super high end or anything but I really enjoy it and the dac is fantastic. Forgot about the Peachtree. Haven't heard the newer INOVA, but have heard an older Nova. Wasn't my cup of tea, notes seemed a little too rounded for me. The newer I series may be better, I dunno. What did they improve with the I series over the old ?
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Post by nooshinjohn on Nov 13, 2013 2:25:17 GMT -5
I never thought of tubes until I got the opportunity to build mine, and now I would never go back to anything else. They have been zero maintenance since I plugged them in. I understand that most modern tube amps are pretty much plug and play affairs that need nothing but to be turned on and enjoyed.
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Post by nooshinjohn on Nov 13, 2013 2:26:39 GMT -5
Tony... we need to educate you on the quote feature... your responses are getting rolled into the quote bubbles.
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Post by tonyb on Nov 13, 2013 2:45:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I noticed that John. Too tired right now to figure it out. Think I stirred the pot enough for one day.
Btw, how often do you find yourself having to adjust the bias on those tube amps ?
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Post by headrott on Nov 13, 2013 3:28:01 GMT -5
I need to be educated as well John. I seem to either have to post above the quote, or when I try to post below the quote, my post doesn't show up. What am I doing incorrectly?
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Post by Ender on Nov 13, 2013 8:51:14 GMT -5
I need to be educated as well John. I seem to either have to post above the quote, or when I try to post below the quote, my post doesn't show up. What am I doing incorrectly? You just need to go down a line or two below the post and click there. It should throw the blinking cursor all the way to the right. I will try to modify the theme tonight to see if I can get it to better differentiate the quote from the text below it.
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Post by rockmanrock on Nov 13, 2013 11:52:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I noticed that John. Too tired right now to figure it out. Think I stirred the pot enough for one day. Btw, how often do you find yourself having to adjust the bias on those tube amps ?
Stir, I'm with you on the SS. Tony, want to have more fun? Get the tube amp guys to argue about how manual bias is better than auto bias.
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Post by tonyb on Nov 13, 2013 13:37:27 GMT -5
Oh, don't get me wrong Rockman, You won't find a more fanboy of tubes than me....well maybe Brock over at Polk. LOL.
But, long ago the fuss and muss of owning all tube products wore thin. Plus add kids, wives, dogs, grandkids, hillbilly relatives, the choice was easy to make. Still, I lust for that tube sound, so my search for gear is always taking into consideration hybrid products or SS that has some form of tube flavor. Hence the "bridging the gap" thread.
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Post by headrott on Nov 13, 2013 15:20:12 GMT -5
I need to be educated as well John. I seem to either have to post above the quote, or when I try to post below the quote, my post doesn't show up. What am I doing incorrectly? You just need to go down a line or two below the post and click there. It should throw the blinking cursor all the way to the right. I will try to modify the theme tonight to see if I can get it to better differentiate the quote from the text below it. Got it!! I didn't notice the difference between the two cursor markings. One is to the left, but the lower cursor marking is ALL the way to the left. So, this quote should work, right?
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Post by Ender on Nov 13, 2013 16:06:20 GMT -5
You just need to go down a line or two below the post and click there. It should throw the blinking cursor all the way to the right. I will try to modify the theme tonight to see if I can get it to better differentiate the quote from the text below it. Got it!! I didn't notice the difference between the two cursor markings. One is to the left, but the lower cursor marking is ALL the way to the left. So, this quote should work, right? Bingo bango bongo.
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Post by dawgfish on Nov 13, 2013 16:40:19 GMT -5
Tubes rule!!!
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Post by njpolker on Nov 13, 2013 17:23:57 GMT -5
It is a beauty and sound so nice. I don't expect to compete with the belles/anthem combo but I gotta say is not bad. And for $65. WOW I think that what I paid. One day I'll replace the crappy cord with a signal cable power cord.
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Post by njpolker on Nov 13, 2013 17:25:49 GMT -5
Tubes rule but I have to say the Marantz pictured above has no tubes but sounds like to does
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Post by jhayman on Nov 14, 2013 10:34:15 GMT -5
between SS/TUBE gear. What piece of gear floats your boat ? I dig my Butler amp because it bridges those qualities in SS/tube. No muss, no fuss. Musical fidelity is another that does it and does it well. My other favorite is McCormack amps. I recently turned JHAYMAN on to them over at Polk and he is just tickled pink. Bat would possibly be another. Moscode does it well too. Have a favorite that's bridging those characteristics ? Yes I Love my McCormack amp and Pre.. I really have heard any tubes so I have no comparison. Thanks Tony..
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Post by hewlew1 on Nov 14, 2013 14:57:02 GMT -5
It is a beauty and sound so nice. I don't expect to compete with the belles/anthem combo but I gotta say is not bad. And for $65. WOW I think that what I paid. One day I'll replace the crappy cord with a signal cable power cord. I have a Marantz 2238B as well, I like all the old Marantz gear.
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Post by tonyb on Nov 14, 2013 15:42:43 GMT -5
I also dig the old Marantz and Sansui gear. Still on the lookout for a AU717 integrated to replace my crappy Sony upstairs.
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Post by nooshinjohn on Nov 14, 2013 19:46:48 GMT -5
I miss my AU-20000...
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Post by rockmanrock on Nov 14, 2013 20:44:10 GMT -5
Oh, don't get me wrong Rockman, You won't find a more fanboy of tubes than me....well maybe Brock over at Polk. LOL. But, long ago the fuss and muss of owning all tube products wore thin. Plus add kids, wives, dogs, grandkids, hillbilly relatives, the choice was easy to make. Still, I lust for that tube sound, so my search for gear is always taking into consideration hybrid products or SS that has some form of tube flavor. Hence the "bridging the gap" thread. I know that Brock guy. I got his bro to go tubeless. Got his bro to go back into vinyl in a big way too...I'm a gear enabler.
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Post by Ender on Nov 14, 2013 21:34:53 GMT -5
Oh, don't get me wrong Rockman, You won't find a more fanboy of tubes than me....well maybe Brock over at Polk. LOL. But, long ago the fuss and muss of owning all tube products wore thin. Plus add kids, wives, dogs, grandkids, hillbilly relatives, the choice was easy to make. Still, I lust for that tube sound, so my search for gear is always taking into consideration hybrid products or SS that has some form of tube flavor. Hence the "bridging the gap" thread. Tony, I am there with you. Plus add warm up time and its bit of a PAIN if your sessions aren't too long. I think thats why for me a tubed pre will be where I go. The tube sound, I can leave it on for long periods of time, not as many tubes so rolling isnt as expensive.
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Post by agentorange on Nov 14, 2013 21:35:56 GMT -5
I never thought of tubes until I got the opportunity to build mine, and now I would never go back to anything else. They have been zero maintenance since I plugged them in. I understand that most modern tube amps are pretty much plug and play affairs that need nothing but to be turned on and enjoyed. Good deal, I got 4 of those built by Mike with all the upgrades he could come up with. They are nice, I run mine as mono blocks into $4K Def Teck speakers where they only need to carry the top as the DTs each have a 300w sub built in. The sound pleases me. I have two of the Bob Carver Tube Preamps. I believe the way to go for most us is to go with a tube pre and a solid state amp. What say you --- ?
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