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Post by trav0810 on Dec 9, 2013 21:37:19 GMT -5
There are two different units I am looking at. Does anyone have experience with either? Or comparably priced recommendations? Pioneer N-30
Marantz NA7004
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Post by tonyb on Dec 10, 2013 13:18:06 GMT -5
None with those above but they operate like many others. Depends on what you want to do and within what budget.
If this type of thing is your huckleberry, a hard look should go into the direction of the Bryston BDP-1 or 2. Used the 1 will be more in your budget, the 2 maybe a tad pricey.
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Post by trav0810 on Dec 10, 2013 13:55:30 GMT -5
I want something that will allow me to play music from my computer hard drive that will not require me to hook up a TV or Monitor and will have a sufficient enough on board DAC so that I will not have to buy an external DAC. Both of the units I listed are under $400, and that is about what my budget is.
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Post by tonyb on Dec 10, 2013 21:13:59 GMT -5
Is your computer close to the stereo ? Do you need wireless ? Sure those units will work, but why so adverse to buying an external dac ?
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Post by trav0810 on Dec 10, 2013 21:50:33 GMT -5
Not adverse, but all the options I look at end up costing more that way, to get less capability. I can get that Pioneer for $300. I would be looking at that same price point just to buy a DAC, then I still have to get a way to stream from my computer to the DAC.
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Post by tonyb on Dec 10, 2013 22:45:57 GMT -5
The wifi adapter is another 150 clams for the pioneer. Maybe a WD live unit would work better and cheaper ?
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Post by nooshinjohn on Dec 10, 2013 22:52:11 GMT -5
There are two different units I am looking at. Does anyone have experience with either? Or comparably priced recommendations? Pioneer N-30
Marantz NA7004
I have a nearly new N30 here at work for 229.97... I just got the last new one for super cheap. The idea I have is to run it into the two channel system for streaming sources. I have just begun the build-out for my HT room.... pics coming in a new thread soon.
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Post by trav0810 on Dec 11, 2013 7:38:48 GMT -5
The wifi adapter is another 150 clams for the pioneer. Maybe a WD live unit would work better and cheaper ? I can put the "music server" anywhere, so wifi isn't a must. And there is an adapter on ebay for $70 if I decide to go that route. Still under $400. With the WD live unit, would I have to use a monitor?
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Post by trav0810 on Dec 11, 2013 7:39:53 GMT -5
There are two different units I am looking at. Does anyone have experience with either? Or comparably priced recommendations? Pioneer N-30
Marantz NA7004
I have a nearly new N30 here at work for 229.97... I just got the last new one for super cheap. The idea I have is to run it into the two channel system for streaming sources. I have just begun the build-out for my HT room.... pics coming in a new thread soon. Damn John! You have everything I need there. A network player and the soundbar I want.
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Post by disneyjoe7 on Dec 11, 2013 8:15:47 GMT -5
Does any of these network audio plays can play www.181.fm streams? I like "The Breeze", right now I'm running a linux computer but it locks up at time. :-(
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Post by tonyb on Dec 11, 2013 10:24:47 GMT -5
Does any of these network audio plays can play www.181.fm streams? I like "The Breeze", right now I'm running a linux computer but it locks up at time. :-( Hardwired or are you using wireless ? Straight out of the 'puter to a stereo, or simply using computer speakers ?
Lots of variables that can cause buffering issues, music cutting out. Lay out what your using and maybe we can better help solve that issue.
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Post by disneyjoe7 on Dec 11, 2013 13:35:11 GMT -5
Well network is wired or not... Got a repeater router which see's a dsl router / switch this repeater router is wired to my HTPC and the Streaming music pc. The music pc is connect to my tube pre amp then to a Halo A23 amp to Carver Amazing speakers. The computer needs memmory DDR PC2700 1 gig cards so I can get 2 gigs in that computer, right now using 2 512k for 1 gig... it locks up at time and tells me it out of memory. The computer is old Pentium 4 2ghz, but works and use a Sound Blaster live card.
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Post by disneyjoe7 on Dec 12, 2013 5:53:15 GMT -5
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Post by tonyb on Dec 12, 2013 10:23:59 GMT -5
I'm far from an expert on computer crap, but off the top of my head I want to say you have 2 issues, one being the old computer and 2 being the repeater. I'm thinking that repeater may be slowing down the transfer of info. Another possible angle is your internet service may be slowing down at certain times when usages are high, causing buffering issues. This is more likely to happen on lower tiered internet service packages. Sometimes cheap routers tend to drop signals too. Or too many wireless things going on at the same time over long distances or by too many users. Even a microwave can interfere with wireless.
Have you tried using different channels on the router ?
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Post by disneyjoe7 on Dec 12, 2013 10:55:12 GMT -5
Tony, my network wireless / wired system isn't the issue, since Ubuntu states it's out of memory and not an ethernet issue. BTW I also use a repeater for a printer in another room, I did this since I rent and didn't wish to run wires around.
But on the other hand I just brought some new memory for that computer.
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Post by trav0810 on Dec 12, 2013 12:45:38 GMT -5
That's strange that you are running into that. My experience with Ubuntu is that it utilizes little memory, so I would think that what you have should be more than adequate. I wonder is it is actually a hardware issue.
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Post by disneyjoe7 on Dec 12, 2013 14:00:56 GMT -5
Ubuntu comes back at times "It's Dead Jim"
But yes feel Ubuntu is utilizes little memory. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 32bit.
I now understand Chrome and Firefox are memory leaky so adding memory maybe not a fix overall.
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Post by trav0810 on Dec 12, 2013 17:41:40 GMT -5
I am playing with the Marantz right now. it's a pretty nice unit, but I want to give the Pioneer a try.
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Post by disneyjoe7 on Dec 12, 2013 18:45:49 GMT -5
I wonder if my issue's with a home built music streamer vs. a network Marantz is much better? I pretty impressed with a Sound Blaster live card. Very dark and nice mid voice output.
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Post by trav0810 on Dec 12, 2013 18:52:22 GMT -5
This is my only experience with any kind of digital streaming, so I would have no idea. So far, I have just used a flash drive as the source. I don't have a computer server set up yet.
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Post by tonyb on Dec 13, 2013 7:37:43 GMT -5
Do you have a computer and a router ?
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Post by disneyjoe7 on Dec 13, 2013 8:09:58 GMT -5
DSL modem / switch, then to 2 wtr45g routers working as repeaters. One for the living room and one used for a printer. More computers then I like to state, but say many. One main one for my tv which is my tuner / dvr and the small computer for the network music source.
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Post by tonyb on Dec 13, 2013 8:25:51 GMT -5
Does this happen on MP3 files....lossless....or both ?
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Post by tonyb on Dec 13, 2013 8:26:33 GMT -5
Do you have a computer and a router ? That was aimed at Trav pal.
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Post by trav0810 on Dec 13, 2013 9:26:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I have a computer and router. My computer is my laptop and I don't have any music stored on it. I have a computer tower that had all my music on it, but the power supply died so I am putting a new supply in it, then I will be using it strictly as a music server.
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Post by tonyb on Dec 13, 2013 13:01:10 GMT -5
Then you need a squeezebox or a Sonos....believe me their software is miles ahead of the rest of the field.
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Post by trav0810 on Dec 13, 2013 13:41:35 GMT -5
Then you need a squeezebox or a Sonos....believe me their software is miles ahead of the rest of the field. Then you have to fork out the extra cash for an external DAC as well because the DAC on the squeezebox is less than desirable. So then, I am up to spending quite a bit more money.
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Post by Ender on Dec 13, 2013 14:17:01 GMT -5
Then you need a squeezebox or a Sonos....believe me their software is miles ahead of the rest of the field. Then you have to fork out the extra cash for an external DAC as well because the DAC on the squeezebox is less than desirable. So then, I am up to spending quite a bit more money. The DAC is more than adequate, we are just picky as hell about DAC's. I think you could live with the DAC's in the touch for a long time before you felt the need to upgrade. And with a networked media player you can still run into that same problem. By keeping a DAC external you at least eliminate the inability to swap them out in the future.
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Post by trav0810 on Dec 13, 2013 15:35:10 GMT -5
Then you have to fork out the extra cash for an external DAC as well because the DAC on the squeezebox is less than desirable. So then, I am up to spending quite a bit more money. The DAC is more than adequate, we are just picky as hell about DAC's. I think you could live with the DAC's in the touch for a long time before you felt the need to upgrade. And with a networked media player you can still run into that same problem. By keeping a DAC external you at least eliminate the inability to swap them out in the future. It's adequate in that it functions, but in the same class as my sony 300cd megachanger, which is what I am trying to get away from. I ran this CDP through the DAC on the Marantz and it was a noticeable improvement. With my pre, amp, and speakers, the digital source has been my weak link. A squeezebox would add convenience, but without an extrrnal DAC, its not going to be a sonic improvement.
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Post by tonyb on Dec 13, 2013 15:36:58 GMT -5
Then you have to fork out the extra cash for an external DAC as well because the DAC on the squeezebox is less than desirable. So then, I am up to spending quite a bit more money. The DAC is more than adequate, we are just picky as hell about DAC's. I think you could live with the DAC's in the touch for a long time before you felt the need to upgrade. And with a networked media player you can still run into that same problem. By keeping a DAC external you at least eliminate the inability to swap them out in the future. Absolutely, the internal dac in the Touch is a 24/96 dac, decent quality too. But like I said, you can always use the dac in your receiver too until you have the coin for a separate dac. Don't underestimate the value of easy to use software in either the Touch or Sonos products.
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